Just Kidding and Raising Kids

Guide to Pregnancy, Kidding, and Newborn Care

Gain Confidence in Your Goats and Yourself

"Thanks to this course, I knew exactly when my ladies were approaching labor. I felt confident in knowing where they were at in the process, what to expect next, and I had everything I needed to handle the situation, regardless of the course they took. Thankfully, we now have 3 healthy and happy kids who are being raised by their healthy and happy moms! I will continue to reference this material for years to come!"
Trudy Cape - Georgia

Have you ever spent hours -- or days and nights -- in a cold barn because you thought your doe was in labor?

How many times have you wondered, "Is that normal?"

How much sleep have you lost when goats were due to kid because you kept running out to the barn to check on them?

My answers to these questions have changed dramatically since 2002 when we bought our first goats.

The most frustrating part of "the early years" was spending a couple of days with a doe and then having her kid 15 minutes after I went into the house to eat lunch!

But it doesn't have to be that way. And you don't have to wait 10 or 15 years to get the experience to know when your doe is close to giving birth or that things are progressing normally.

New and aspiring goat owners often tell me that they wish they could spend a couple of weeks with an experienced goat breeder during kidding season. They are worried that they won't know what's normal or when a doe needs help.

Although we offered internships during kidding season for more than a decade and currently offer an on-farm hands-on experience, I realize most people don't have the time to come to our farm for a week. That's why I created this online course. It includes all of the information that I give students in our on-farm experiences about goat birthing and getting started with kids. Plus, it includes extended videos of 25+ kids that were born on our farm -- from labor and birth through nursing, bottle-feeding, disbudding, castrating, tattooing, and more.

The birthing videos are minimally edited and heavily narrated. You'll see the good, the bad, the boring, and the ugly.

  • We'll start with checking on does who are due. You'll follow me as I check udders and tail ligaments and look at bellies and debate when to move a doe to a kidding pen.
  • You'll be there during early labor and hear how I decide whether to head back into the house or stay in the barn longer.
  • You'll see normal labors and abnormal labors, as well as normal labors that are different -- and would make most newbies really worried!
  • You'll see does pushing out kids. I'll talk about what's normal and why I'm just sitting and waiting.
  • I'll also let you know when I'm starting to get worried.
  • If I do something, I'll explain the pros and cons, along with what I'm doing and why.
  • You'll see normal and abnormal placentas and learn what they mean.

Once the kids are born, you'll see how quickly (or slowly) they get to their feet and start nursing.

  • If they don't start nursing in a timely manner, you'll learn what to do.
  • When a kid gets hypothermia, you'll see how I get them warmed up and how I get colostrum into them with syringe-feeding or bottle-feeding.
  • If a doe has too many kids to feed or if a kid has problems at birth that make it harder to get started nursing, you'll see how to start bottle feeding, as well as the way that bottle-feeding changes in the early weeks.
  • You'll learn about normal newborn poop, newborn hooves, and umbilical cords.
  • You'll see us weighing kids to determine if they're gaining weight at an acceptable rate.
  • You'll see a dehydrated kid that had hypoglycemia and how it was tube-fed.
  • You can watch us disbud five kids so you get several perspectives.
  • You'll also see several castrations with a Burdizzo and a Side Crusher.
  • Another video shows us tattooing several kids.
  • One video is devoted to figuring out which kids are polled and which are horned over the course of several days. We even let the horns grow on four of the kids so you can see how fast the horns grow.

Basically you'll get to see just about everything that happens from the end of pregnancy throughout the first two months of a kid's life.


Your Instructor


Deborah Niemann
Deborah Niemann

In 2002, Deborah and her family moved to 32 acres on a creek in the middle of nowhere to grow their own food organically. With the help of goats, sheep, pigs, and poultry, they produce 100% of their meat, eggs, and dairy products, as well as a large percentage of their vegetables, fruit, and herbs. They sold chickens and turkeys for more than 10 years, and are currently a licensed egg producer in Illinois and sell eggs to a grocery store and through a CSA.

Deborah is the author of six books, including Homegrown and Handmade, Ecothrifty, and Raising Goats Naturally, as well as her latest book, Goats Giving Birth. She also teaches sustainable agriculture courses online for the University of Massachusetts - Amherst. She has been teaching Raising Dairy Goats Sustainably since 2013 and Pastured Poultry since 2015.

In 2022, Deborah got certified as a FAMACHA instructor so that she and her students could feel confident that she was providing the most up-to-date information on parasite research and management.


Deborah's kidding course is well worth taking to increase your comfort level and confidence in providing the best care while your goats are giving birth. Knowing when you can sit back and watch the natural process take place or when to call for back-up is very helpful and appreciated. Took the course last winter and when kidding afterwards in March, had to call the vet. C-section was done and still lost momma, but kid survived. The course helped me to determine that I wouldn't have been able to handle that case on my own and the vet was called much sooner.
Karen Desjardins -- Field & Forest Acres, Ontario

I’ve been raising goats for about 10 years and kidding season is always an anxious time of year for me. I have dealt with many difficult deliveries and learned by experience what to do and not to do. It is very encouraging to me to see by your videos where I’ve done some things right and some things wrong. So thank you Deborah for making this course available. It was truly helpful because just when I think I’ve seen it all, one of my pregnant does will prove me wrong 😊
Mary Johnston -- Texas

The main thing I can describe--which isn't quantifiable--is a general sense of calm while I'm waiting for a presenting kid to emerge. The course helped develop a trust in the process and patience during the active pushing phase. I also started timing, which might seem counterintuitive, but I did this because I knew my mind was speeding up time spent pushing. By allowing myself to look at a clock, I could be objective and understand that things weren't actually taking as long as they felt.
Naomi D'Andrea -- Indiana

I love your goat courses and I think it is awesome that you add to them occasionally. I also think it is really awesome that you reply to all the messages and emails we all send with our questions and pictures. You have helped raise my confidence level tremendously and I greatly appreciate all you do for all of us.
Denice -- Missouri

The course was so helpful. I love the balance of written material charts, articles etc. with lots of videos. By the end of the course I felt really confident and well prepared and I know my goats have benefited from this already. Thank you.
Clare Clovis -- Ontario, Canada

Just watching the actual process really gave me more confidence I could handle it!
Chris Edson -- Missouri

I have had lots of time recently to get through a few videos! And my children LOVE the birthing videos. The cost of the course was worth just those to help prepare my children for what it looks like. We have cattle but we've never actually seen them give birth, so this has been great! I'm also obsessed with human birth, so it has been really good for me to see the differences between humans and the goats. I'm also an information junkie, so I'm loving the details you cover in the lecture videos too. It's all very well done! Thank you!
Katie -- North Dakota

When current and former students were asked ...

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How would you rate the effectiveness of the course on helping you to feel more confident about your goats giving birth?


Would you recommend this course to a friend who wants to learn more about goat birthing and raising kids?

 

The curriculum below lists all of the modules and videos in the course.

Be sure to click on the down arrow to see the complete list of lessons.

Each module also includes a discussion board so you can ask questions, which will be answered by Deborah.

Course Curriculum


  Getting Started
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  Lady's Birth Videos
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  Standard Dairy Goat Births (added June 2023)
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  BONUS: Selling Kids
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I have absolutely loved the Thrifty Homesteader Academy's "Just Kidding and Raising Kids" online course. After purchasing the series of video lectures, they are always available for viewing at your convenience day or night. I am able to go back and view them again and again. I felt like I was standing in Deborah's barn right next to her as she was demonstrating and explaining every step of the birthing process and the raising of newborn kids. The videos answered just about every question and concern I had and really helped a new goat owner like me feel confident when the time came for my goats to give birth. Deborah also continues to add new content which is made available to everyone who has purchased her course. And she personally contacts each customer via email and is so willing to answer any more questions you may have as they arise. I highly recommend ALL of her courses...they are well worth the price!!
Laura Severt
, Barneveld, WI

I strongly recommend Deborah's course for anyone who wants to learn more about the birthing experience. The variety of topics was excellent and comprehensive. I will be able to implement what I learned immediately. This course was just in time for me as I am about to have my does begin kidding. I'm sure the knowledge I picked up will save some babies lives and help me be able to raise stronger, healthier kids.
Lynn Brown -- Ohio

Deborah’s videos are extremely informative and well worth the money! I have learned so much from Deborah, and being able to go back and watch the videos over and over, I pick up on something each time that I missed the time before. Keep the videos coming!
Teresa Cole - Tomball, Texas

Even though I had read 3 to 4 books on raising goats before purchasing our does and buck, it was a relief to find someone who was so knowledgeable about goats. It was a relief to find Deborah since she does so much research and give lectures about taking care of your goats. Not only does she do all this, but she actually has acquired a lot of her knowledge from her own goats that she has had for many years. In other words, like she said, we get to learn from her mistakes. Personally, I have learned a lot from her and continue to consult, bug, pester her whenever I need her advice. She has never given me bad advice to this day. Please find and watch her kidding course. There’s so much helpful, and definitely needed information for you. She has other helpful videos about goats you will be glad you’ve taken advantage of.
Deborah Eddelmen -
Illinois

The kidding course was extremely useful and helpful. First, the videos and their progression (from easy to more complicated births) were really useful. Second, your calmness and reassuring and matter-of-fact attitude and the emphasis on not over helping was something I remembered during our own kidding (kids coming out with one hoof and one bent back: it was perfectly fine). Another super helpful thing: Thanks to you I finally was able to ‘get’ the ligaments disappearing! Thanks again!
Angelica and Aurora -
Upstate New York

Frequently Asked Questions


When does the course start and finish?
The course starts now and never ends! It is a completely self-paced online course - you decide when you start and when you finish. You can watch each video as many times as you want.
How long do I have access to the course?
How does lifetime access sound? After enrolling, you have unlimited access to this course for as long as you like - across any and all devices you own.
What if I am unhappy with the course?
We would never want you to be unhappy! If you are having a problem with the course, we hope you'll contact us, so we'll have a chance to help you or fix the problem. If you decide, however, that the course is not for you, contact us in the first 30 days and we will give you a full refund.
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